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Its very easy to dodge the instakill move when you know what to look for. Its basically a white/green/black aura that appears a second or two before the DC comes up from the ground. Hope this helps some of you who are having difficulties passing the Demon faction.
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It is worth noting that sprinting alone will not always dodge this attack. Fade Step/Cloak makes it simple to avoid however. Thank you for providing a video to highlight this for everyone.
from my experience if you jump while moving it misses you
It is worth noting that sprinting alone will not always dodge this attack. Fade Step/Cloak makes it simple to avoid however. Thank you for providing a video to highlight this for everyone.
If your reaction is just a bit slow and you're getting a bit of lag he will still kill you out of Fade Step as you can see in the beginning of the video with me. I once had him kill me while Fade Stepping with his ranged attack as well.
Lag and body blocking means this shouldn't be an instant-kill to begin with, at least not with such little warning. Save that for a single-player experience, in a multiplayer setting where internets and servers can be just as much an (unavoidable) issue as skill, you don't have insta-kill moves.
Dude needs a nerf. The end.
Helpful, but the OHKilling must go nevertheless. Especially in the routine difficulty where people try to figure out how things work. The tell isn't really "telling" when you're busy in the last wave.
Lag and body blocking means this shouldn't be an instant-kill to begin with, at least not with such little warning. Save that for a single-player experience, in a multiplayer setting where internets and servers can be just as much an (unavoidable) issue as skill, you don't have insta-kill moves.
Dude needs a nerf. The end.
I find the Demon Commander is a lot easier to dodge if you don't run over to watch your team mate revive the last poor bastard that didn't understand that standing still when the Demon Commander dives underground is a bad idea. Seriously, had this happen to me twice today. For the love of Andraste, do not stand next to each other during the Demon Commander fight. By "each other", I mean "next to me".
It's almost as bad as those guys that want to huddle in the entrance to fight him.
Anyway, thank you for taking the time to make the video. I genuinely hope more of the people I get matched with take the time to watch this.
If your reaction is just a bit slow and you're getting a bit of lag he will still kill you out of Fade Step as you can see in the beginning of the video with me. I once had him kill me while Fade Stepping with his ranged attack as well.
Helpful, but the OHKilling must go nevertheless. Especially in the routine difficulty where people try to figure out how things work. The tell isn't really "telling" when you're busy in the last wave.
I can confirm evade, as I have done it quite a bit on the hunter.
Im not sure about roll though... something tells me it likely wont cover enough distance, but I may be wrong. Usually I am charging (katari) like hell once I see the lights.
Then pay more attention. Its so easy to avoid once you know what to look for. I only get killed by him when my dodge ability is on cooldown now and i personally find the templar boss harder at this point.
Not everybody has a dodge ability and I am already paying attention to the stuff that's happening. The DC's skill set is too much BS for routine and new players. The templar boss is a joke - all you need to do is kite him and have ranged pour on him. The only way Templar boss gets you is when you're in a confined area and don't pay attention.
He doesn't retarget to the Rogue's Evade-decoy thats for sure...
Thanks first poster dude, i'd kinda seen that, but the video helps greatly to spot for the tell, and how long you've got to get away. i think i was dodging/fade too quick at times.
If you opt out of a dodge abilty then the penalty for doing so is that you cant dodge in favor of another skill. The player must decide if its worth it to have increased mobility/evasion (it almost always is).Not everybody has a dodge ability and I am already paying attention to the stuff that's happening. The DC's skill set is too much BS for routine and new players. The templar boss is a joke - all you need to do is kite him and have ranged pour on him. The only way Templar boss gets you is when you're in a confined area and don't pay attention.
If you opt out of a dodge abilty then the penalty for doing so is that you cant dodge in favor of another skill. The player must decide if its worth it to have increased mobility/evasion (it almost always is).
Its also a boss. Its not supposed to be a cakewalk. Its also incredibly easy once you know his skillset. Ive had no issues whatsoever with demons since i bothered to learn how the commander works.
As for the templar, he needs kiting. The templars have 2 strong ranged units, this is what kills you more often than not.
I'm a bit used to having dodge for free (Mass Effect) so I currently boycot dodge skills in MP. (Love it in SP, though). I had ridiculously easy stage 5 DC encounters. It comes down how good your team/tank is.
Usually I end up with people that don't know how to handle the boss - it might help putting more of the terrors in the earlier wave composition, since he has a similar behaviour.
I'm a bit used to having dodge for free (Mass Effect) so I currently boycot dodge skills in MP. (Love it in SP, though). I had ridiculously easy stage 5 DC encounters. It comes down how good your team/tank is.
Usually I end up with people that don't know how to handle the boss - it might help putting more of the terrors in the earlier wave composition, since he has a similar behaviour.
Good post. Hopefully more will get the hint sooner or later.
Slight derail, but what's up with the Rage Demon? Do they just damage anyone close by? Because my assassin is stabbing him in the back and sometimes takes random damage from it and other times doesn't.
Good post. Hopefully more will get the hint sooner or later.
Slight derail, but what's up with the Rage Demon? Do they just damage anyone close by? Because my assassin is stabbing him in the back and sometimes takes random damage from it and other times doesn't.
Sprinting away and jumping at the last second also works.. When hosting or on a very good host. On a less than desirable host rubber banding will pull you right back into his kill radius. IMO he does need a nerf. Not to his damage or health like everyone seems to be suggesting (although I agree with the person above me who suggested a damage nerf on ROUTINE to not punish new players as much) but to the kill radius of his insta kill move and AoE panic attack. I don't even want a huge nerf, something like a 0.5m radius reduction will work wonders to compensate for latency.
Fade step is very inconsistent off host full stop unfortunately. I much prefer fade cloak for evading.
Same here. Although when I'm facetanking the Demon Commander with the AW I prefer to negate the stun scream rather than the pop-up when my barrier is full. And I knew the tell, have evaded him many times with bunny hopping thanks to it. But if you miss that split second window then he can wreck you right out of Fade Step off-host.
Maybe I should just take Fade Cloak instead on my Necro. 
It also works when facing the greater demons that scream at you like the banshees in ME3
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