Here you go:
Watch the video for the full breakdown.
Quick overview:
Skills
Toxic Cloud
Leaping Shot
Stealth
Hook and Tackle
Basic Strategy is explained in the video.
Let me know what you all think!
[Build Guide] Hunter Strike Sapper
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Опубликовано 10 Январь 2015 - 05:26
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Опубликовано 10 Январь 2015 - 10:47
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Advanced Strategy:
Prerequisite: This stratagem is primarily based on the Hammer and Anvil, with your Toxic Cloud acting as the Anvil. This build requires a lot of movement and quick combinations. Not only is it necessary to be a bit smarter about timing skills properly, knowing where to move is key in this strategy, as on harder difficulties running in front of, say, an archer as opposed to behind them could quickly spell death.
- Choose the Bait: Observe the enemy formation and grouping from a safe distance. If unnoticed, advise DPS classes on your team of isolated targets on the wings of the main force. Those will be their targets. Yours is the heart.
- Cast the Line: Timing is key from here on out. Target and enemy in the middle-back of the group and grapple it with Hook and Tackle just as your tank initiates. If all goes well, you should be surrounded by ranged DPS with all enemies you passed by completely unaware of your presence.
- Set the Hook: Immediately cast Toxic Cloud as soon as you land from Hook and Tackle.
- Clear the Water: Immediately cast Stealth after Toxic Cloud is up. If all went well, there is now a group of enemies choking to death but completely oblivious to your presence.
- Catch or Release: Now comes the choice. If the enemies are tightly grouped enough and near enough to death, use Leaping Shot immediately to finish them off. If the positioning is not ideal, move around to flank them completely, then use Leaping Shot and basic attacks to clean up.
Team Synergy:
Tank Roles: Should let you know they are about to initiate so you can pick your first victim. After that, the tank should play the hammer of the classic Hammer and Anvil stratagem, herding enemies into Toxic Cloud (which is the anvil in this scenario).
Other DPS Roles: Should focus on isolated enemies on the wings. More attention to the middle of the enemy group in the beginning is bad for you. Stray arrows still hit you in Stealth, so they should go outside first, then move inside to clean up.
Control Roles: Should focus on herding and keeping enemies in Toxic Cloud. Pull of the Abyss and Static Cage work great for this.
Support Roles: Should largely ignore you and support the tank.
Note: Even on Perilous, I have noticed that with this particular stratagem, the combat set piece only lasts 8-12 seconds depending on the team and gear, except zone 5, of course.
Any feedback, let me know!
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Опубликовано 10 Январь 2015 - 11:25
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I've been having too much fun with this build to promote http://da-skills.net...010,001a1,B1D,0 but I'll try out toxic cloud next time. I haven't been blown away with it on the alchemist but with more damage on a bow class it might be great. Thanks for the guide 
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Опубликовано 10 Январь 2015 - 11:38
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I've been having too much fun with this build to promote http://da-skills.net...010,001a1,B1D,0 but I'll try out toxic cloud next time. I haven't been blown away with it on the alchemist but with more damage on a bow class it might be great. Thanks for the guide
That's a solid build. Gives you that good burst DPS. Depending on how high gear/promotions you have, I'd honestly promote even just to replace Knife in the Shadows with Lost in the Shadows (Stealth upgrade).
Hook and Tackle + Leaping Shot just feel like they were made for each other, though, yeah?
I definitely recommend at least trying Toxic Cloud on the Hunter at least once. I demonstrate it in the video guide... It's loads of fun!
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Опубликовано 10 Январь 2015 - 12:49
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Might just be me, but i love evade when playing hunter.
Think i might try toxic cloud on my next promotion though. With explosive toxin looks like it might be alot of fun.
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Опубликовано 10 Январь 2015 - 01:21
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Any chance of an recommended unlock order? Build looks great
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Опубликовано 10 Январь 2015 - 09:59
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Any chance of an recommended unlock order? Build looks great
I do suggest in the video unlocking Leaping Shot first. This is because it is both quick to and because it has great utility. I would honestly get Stealth second, Hook and Tackle third, and Toxic Cloud last. Using this particular order, the play style of the Hunter is morphing throughout leveling, making it a bit less tedious.
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Опубликовано 10 Январь 2015 - 10:03
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That's my biggest problem with Toxic Cloud builds on Hunter, it is so out of the way that you really don't get to use it until like level 17-18 unless you're skipping all of your other desired active and passives until very late in your build.
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Опубликовано 10 Январь 2015 - 10:06
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That's my biggest problem with Toxic Cloud builds on Hunter, it is so out of the way that you really don't get to use it until like level 17-18 unless you're skipping all of your other desired active and passives until very late in your build.
If you really want it, you can go for it first, then Leaping Shot and so on...
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Опубликовано 10 Январь 2015 - 10:23
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Definitely gonna try this at some stage
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Опубликовано 10 Январь 2015 - 10:43
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Definitely gonna try this at some stage
The main focus here was not to just make "the Archer but with Stealth". I like to make each character more unique, you know?
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Опубликовано 10 Январь 2015 - 11:40
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I'm a big fan of this play style in routine and/or threatening. A lot of fun. In Perilous it will get you killed more often than not until you get your promotions way up there. Like waaaaay up there.
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Опубликовано 11 Январь 2015 - 12:00
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I'm a big fan of this play style in routine and/or threatening. A lot of fun. In Perilous it will get you killed more often than not until you get your promotions way up there. Like waaaaay up there.
In Perilous, it becomes much more reliant on a team dynamic than Routine or Threatening, which is why I posted the advanced strategy and Team dynamic.
I solo'd Routine to get footage of the abilities in use for the video with my eyes closed. Mind you, I am trying to do things in a specific way to show off abilities, so I kind of hamper myself.
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Опубликовано 16 Январь 2015 - 05:20
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How does this build work with Throwing Blades instead of Toxic Cloud?
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Опубликовано 16 Январь 2015 - 05:42
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I'm currently rebuilding my hunter right now, just got bow of the griffon, even with a slightly off build, me and a keeper run perilous tonight through three waves by ourselves with no problem, wave 4 we got a third and for the fifth wave we picked up a fourth, but we ran it easily, just a matter of working together
http://da-skills.net...010,001C1,000,0
This is what I'm going to run, I'm just debating on where to put the very last skill point. Thinking of either taking the upgrade for explosive shot, as its a great knockdown ability, especially against the rare towershield enemy, gaps in the armor, or maybe upgrading fallback plan. Thoughts?
If I didn't have to give up a couple nice passives I'd sure as hell go for hook n tackle.
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Опубликовано 16 Январь 2015 - 07:22
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I kind of spelled out the passives for my build and how they work in the video, but in your case you could upgrade Explosive Shot, I suppose. The casting animation is a bit slow to fire in CQ, so make sure you aren't too close when using it, or just don't get aggro. :-)I'm currently rebuilding my hunter right now, just got bow of the griffon, even with a slightly off build, me and a keeper run perilous tonight through three waves by ourselves with no problem, wave 4 we got a third and for the fifth wave we picked up a fourth, but we ran it easily, just a matter of working together
http://da-skills.net...010,001C1,000,0
This is what I'm going to run, I'm just debating on where to put the very last skill point. Thinking of either taking the upgrade for explosive shot, as its a great knockdown ability, especially against the rare towershield enemy, gaps in the armor, or maybe upgrading fallback plan. Thoughts?
If I didn't have to give up a couple nice passives I'd sure as hell go for hook n tackle.
How does this build work with Throwing Blades instead of Toxic Cloud?
Yes it could. Be aware, however, that Throwing Blades renders you immobile for about a second while the Hunter throws the knives, which can be disastrous on Perilous.
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Опубликовано 16 Январь 2015 - 07:48
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I kind of spelled out the passives for my build and how they work in the video, but in your case you could upgrade Explosive Shot, I suppose. The casting animation is a bit slow to fire in CQ, so make sure you aren't too close when using it, or just don't get aggro. :-)
Lol, with the way I've been playing my hunter, and having a blast doing it, I tend to really ****** things off, so I generally have one or two zealots or something coming my way. I've been using the knives, but if they don't kill then the thing is on me. And all my play so far on hunter and archer has made me quite experienced in using ES to blast something off its feet before it gets too close. As always, thanks for the imput.
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Опубликовано 16 Январь 2015 - 07:52
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I am using right now this build and I have to say,it is quiet refreshing.Only problem is that I don’t have LotG and poison kinda sucks vs Demons.
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Опубликовано 16 Январь 2015 - 10:32
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I have a superb Heal on Kill ring so I'm thinking some form of Grapple(+), Blades(+), Evade (+), Leaping Shot (+). No Longbow of the Griffon though sadly.
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Опубликовано 16 Январь 2015 - 10:40
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I don't get the hook and tackle. Just use stealth to get in close and drop toxin bomb and use explosive shot instead so you get also more passives.
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Опубликовано 16 Январь 2015 - 10:47
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I have a superb Heal on Kill ring so I'm thinking some form of Grapple(+), Blades(+), Evade (+), Leaping Shot (+). No Longbow of the Griffon though sadlyI had in one build throwing blades
In one build I had throwing blades,’cos I thought they do poison damage(didn’t read tool tip and they are green,lol).They are decent,but while casting them,you are sitting duck,so positioning is crucial.
But in the end,if you have hok ring and decent weapon on threatening any build is viable.
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Опубликовано 16 Январь 2015 - 12:26
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I don't get the hook and tackle. Just use stealth to get in close and drop toxin bomb and use explosive shot instead so you get also more passives.
Stealth is used to maximize Leaping Shot or as a means of dropping aggro if needed after casting Toxic Cloud.
Keep in mind, I made this build for a specific role and play style. I am not claiming it to be the "best" build for the Hunter, nor will I make such a claim about any other build I do, because there is no such thing. There is simply the right tool for the job you need.
Hook & Tackle was part of the necessary mobility of this build. I even gave some optional passives in the video for slight derivations, because there are a lot, but different skills would be another build entirely.
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Опубликовано 16 Январь 2015 - 06:14
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Needs more spike trap.
Excellent build and video. Personally I prefer spike trap over hook and tackle, nice damage but mainly as a novelty.
Excellent build and video. Personally I prefer spike trap over hook and tackle, nice damage but mainly as a novelty.
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Опубликовано 16 Январь 2015 - 06:19
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Nah I like the build, it gave me the idea for the one I'm using now. Also the point of Grapple is for mobility, not damage. I really wish Poison DoT could Sunder or Weaken in this game. It shoud be a primer at least.
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Опубликовано 16 Январь 2015 - 10:51
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Needs more spike trap.
Excellent build and video. Personally I prefer spike trap over hook and tackle, nice damage but mainly as a novelty.
Hook & Tackle has horrible damage, actually. The only potential benefit is that it can be upgraded to have cooldown or stamina cost. It's main use in my build is mobility.
Nah I like the build, it gave me the idea for the one I'm using now. Also the point of Grapple is for mobility, not damage. I really wish Poison DoT could Sunder or Weaken in this game. It shoud be a primer at least.
I agree. I with poison had some kind of utility effect. I think Weaken would honestly be most logical, as they can't hit as hard if they are being poisoned, right?
